Posts by Bungi Bill

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Come on! Tell it like it is. People are LYING when they tell you, "I've read the Bible."

by Terry in

go ahead.

tell me.. "i've read the bible cover to cover.

i don't believe you.. it is damned near impossible!.

Bungi Bill

Terry,

Are you trying to say that a person should only read the bible if they beforehand agree to believe what it says? I would have thought that the time to form an opinion about any piece of writing is afteryou have read it. That is what I always do, anyway!

Or are you trying to suggest that the mere act of reading the bible will automatically transform one into a believer? For many who have responded to this thread, a reading of the entire bible actually had the very opposite effect on them.

At no time did I ever claim to believethe bible (including its remarks about "turning the other cheek"). I only stated that - contrary to the claim made in the title of this thread - I have read the entire bible.

Bill.

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Come on! Tell it like it is. People are LYING when they tell you, "I've read the Bible."

by Terry in

go ahead.

tell me.. "i've read the bible cover to cover.

i don't believe you.. it is damned near impossible!.

Bungi Bill

I'm flattered!

Yes, as you might have gathered, I do take rather strong exception to being branded a liar!

Your remarks about just how beneficial such a bible reading is, though, are quite correct (certainly in my case, anyway). As previously stated, completion of that task felt very much like a let down.

Bill.

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Come on! Tell it like it is. People are LYING when they tell you, "I've read the Bible."

by Terry in

go ahead.

tell me.. "i've read the bible cover to cover.

i don't believe you.. it is damned near impossible!.

Bungi Bill

I have read the thing cover to cover:

- Call me a liar if you like. However, if we ever meet up in person, I will smack you well and truly in the bloody mouth for having done so!

Being an avid reader, I had not too much difficulty reading it right through over the course of one summer holiday.(Hard going as it was, I have had to wade my way through harder reading matter, and for that matter, still am).

Not that the exercise ever did me one bit of good, mind you. Rather, it was something of a let down.

Bill.

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An important message from a PRACTICING Jehovah's witness

by Sparks in

jw
friends

hi, i am also a practicing jehovah's witness and very proud of it,to say the very-very least..!

i am a middle-aged man with many decades of being a witness of jehovah god in england.. this important letter is personally to you, just as many of the bible's 88 letters are to be taken personal by you the reader.

i am writing to you to urge you to take stock of your life, think what your future holds for you.

Bungi Bill

Yeah, I get the drift:

- JWs are the only ones who speak "The Truth" because they say they do, and for no other reason than that.

Therefore, all you naughty girls and boys had better do what the JWs say - or else.

Bloody terrific!

Bill.

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Should some people actually be Witnesses?

by Apognophos in

it seems to me like certain people actually benefit from joining the religion.

primarily i'm thinking of ones with drug problems who are only able to quit because they are working towards baptism.

another example would be those who are always getting in fights or who have a big ego, and who learn to be pacifistic and humble as a witness.

Bungi Bill

Religious conversion is recognised as being one of the least effective methods of getting a person off drugs and/or alcohol. (For example, see Felix Donelly's Big Boys Don't Cry).

The ones boasted about in Afake Awake and Botchtower Watchtower as having kicked their drug or alcohol habits because of "The Truth" nearly always got back on the stuff sooner rather than later. I actually learned to drink from the brother that "brought me into the Truth".

(Sorry to have to report that I proved to be a very able student!)

Bill.

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How many did you, personally, entrap in the Borg ?

by Phizzy in

jw
friends

in my nearly 60 years in the religion, although i "studied" with a good number, i cannot think of any who could lay the blame at my door for being in the religion today.. one lad possibly might, i studied with him briefly as he was trying to get off drugs, he then moved away, and then married a "sister" a few years later, and is still in, but i doubt he would blame me, i hope not.. of the others i studied with none are still in, the last i heard of one of them, a weirdo kid, now weirdo man, was when he was arrested for "flashing" in a local spot frquented by doggers etc.

i guess i was a useless "tutor".

as it happens, that is one of the things i am proud to be a failure at, getting people to join a cult.. i always tried to not do proper r.v's, and never suggested a "study" to anyone, but some, like weirdo, were shoved my way by elders who didn't want the work themselves.. how many are you guilty of getting in to the cult ?.

Bungi Bill

I am happy to be able to report the following:

- not one bloody person!

In fact, I have good reason to believe that I may have even repelled a few from "The Truth."

Bill.

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What is the best advise you have ever been given?

by new hope and happiness in

jw
friends

awhile a go i was uptight about a matter i can't remember now and my friend said to me " give the other side the victory".

a while ago my little boy was getting uptight and argumentative with his mum i asked him " to let it go" in effect i suppose " giving the other side the victory".

anyway i am sure our life exsperiences have allowed us both receive and give good advice.

Bungi Bill

Unfortunately, I failed to appreciate the best advice I was ever given. It was given to me by my father at the same time that I agreed to a "free home bible study" with the JWs:

- his advice was that , to quote, "Religion is like whisky and beer, you can do without it."

Oh my, was he right!

Bill.

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Here's Why the Watchtower Won't Speak Out Against Islam "Craig Winn" Interview 1

by BucketShopBill in

craig winn is one of the most authoritative individuals of islam there is, he's done more research and written extensive on why islam is so dangerous.

his books were written after 9-11-01, now when you listen to his interview get the gist of why islam is not "the religion of peace", it's quite the opposite and even if anyone claims it is, the most respected leaders of islam are blunt with their desire to purge the world of all non-islamic religions.

that never works out well for them because they get rid of all their workers, intellectuals and professionals who flee to some place they can worship or not worship in peace.

Bungi Bill

"kicked their asses back to Arabia"

Not quite - in fact not even by a long shot! Across the Straits of Gibraltar and into North Africa, from whence they had come, more like.

Incidentally, Moslem rule of Spain was not all blood and guts, either. Christians were still free to practice their religion, and during those years, the three centres of learning in the entire world were Cordoba, Bagdhad and Constantinople - with two of those centres being under Moslem rule. Scholars were not only tolerated, they were actually welcomed - not viewed as heretics, like they were in the lands dominated by the Roman Catholic church.

Bill

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Gerrit Losch talks to poor South Americans about Materialism while wearing THREE (3) gold rings and 2 gold cuff links...

by Calebs Airplane in

he also talks trash about higher education .... (for those who know some spanish, view this youtube video...).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suxhx1ho_nq.

what an idiot.. .

Bungi Bill

1) The time left before the end is reduced.

I like that one!

The time left 45 years ago was also "reduced"; "reduced" enough to allow sufficient time for:

- These jerks to prevent me from going to university.

- These same prize acts to get me to abandon my apprenticeship.

- Me to later resume that same apprenticeship, and complete it in a related trade.

- My entering into engineering studies as a mature age student, and set for graduating in mid-2015 , with an Advanced Diploma.

Gormless Gerrit, you could at least come up with something (just a little) original. Mate, if your brains consisted of nothing more than dynamite, I doubt if there would be enough there to even blow your bloody nose!

Bill.

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Why is the world full of ATHEISTS?

by exWTslave in

bible describes atheism as a condition of the heart and is all about seeking what is ephemeral, not acting with insight.

(psalm 14:1, 2) thus it rightly says the whole world is lying in the attraction of what is ephemeral.

(wicked one is not a correct translation.1 john 5:19) thus even believers who pray to god (for material blessings) are actually atheists as they are not trying to be poor in spirit.

Bungi Bill

"Why is the world full of atheists?"

Using the vernacular of where I grew up, I would say because a lot of people have had a complete gutsfull of religion.

Bill